ukraine as a tool. a stick to be russia with elections are needed. that's not part of their plan. not part of their rules. and right now, elections aren't even needed by the head of this project. zalinski himself. we can . but if we're seriously talking about elections, then yes, there's hope that a peaceful alliance between washington and moscow might be able to achieve that. but it's still landscape is still part of interest. it won't mean anything, but on all previous the reached agreements. all the colossal work that has been done. we'll just go down the drain because elections in ukraine woods, the landscape, our elections with no choice. it's occupied territory and occupied people. lensky will get 102 percent, and continue his anti people, anti ukrainian political activities, and of course, anti rushed activities. associates are so the would be elections without choice. if elections are to happen, ukraine, they must happen without zelinski. they must include all political forces and parties that w

in part, not just between russia and ukraine between the united states and ukraine. so when i ask you just point blank, is this a, this will be covered in the media? are we seeing in the deal, the dismemberment of ukraine and the setting up of something like the munich agreement in the 1930s that essentially precipitated the nazi a rollover of so many european countries in the past? no, i didn't think so. i mean, the, the, the territories occupied by russia so far, all last, frankly, there's a huge question as close as whether this should be legally recognized. but there is no real question about ukraine recovery by force because it's tried and failed. the only way to do that is if the us a nature goes well for you credit, which we said we went to. but on the other hand, with our support, the ukrainians have full. the russians just some think close to a stand still in russia has advanced over the past year, but very, very slowly and very heavy casualties. and i think that's why, you know, as part of this, um deal boots and has changed his position. he used to say tha

ukraine. asked for the current situation, the existing terms and agreements aren't being accepted by the current regime by lensky. he's not demonstrating what i would call a positive indicator and these negotiations. here we must acknowledge that the lensky is once again proving his inability or more accurately, his unwillingness to engage in peaceful conflict resolution. his objectives are fundamentally different. that's why his recent statements and actions represent yet another defiance gesture, a dom march against what i call the united pc. by this term, the united piece team, i mean, the emerging alignment between moscow in washington, in this initiative to global polar opposites, is now cooperating on the grain case, while also trying to improve their own relations. i. e between the united states and the russian federation regarding the risk of losing the entire country. the proposed piece plan currently on the table represents the most acceptable and optimal solution for ukraine mccaffe

ukraine. i myself, i would say it's a remarkable read, but i to it because i could not get with the time that i, i first learned about it, it was only available the audiobook version and listen to it. and i can see that it is more than it's an absolutely listen. it is it's it's a great it's a great story. a very poignant story. very sad story that tells us about the struggle of one ukrainian family, which yaroslav will discuss about the backdrop to this and how came to write about this. but i was really interested in finding out about personal connection to this. so what we'll do is we'll take we'll start with yaroslav presentation, then we'll have a bit of dialog between myself and the author. and then towards the end we'll some questions from the audience after we conclude the program, you just last book will be available, purchase and you will be very happy to your copy so. without further ado yaroslav please. so let me begin by by saying this i see myself as a prolific author. you know, i

ukraine is. it's the landscape genocide against the great need people which is expressed if we're talking about the role of the military enlistment, offices, tc or whatever the actions of t c are personnel toward the crating population. but i consider this one aspect of the genocide, that's just like the destruction of believers and the destruction of the granting orthodox church at the this is one of the directions, the genocide is taking the destruction of the crate in people. when you start, there are more and more cases involving the t, c, r, and the crank ratings. now it's already happening to people who used to think that it didn't concern them. and that the t c. r wouldn't come from associates, that they're coming to businesses. they're coming to homes that are coming to apartments. in other words, people living in cities used to think they would only take people from villages. but the people in the villages are already used up with. and the t c. r is now coming to people living in houses,

and there is an understanding that europeans security runs through ukraine, that ukraine and survival is, is crucial to the survival of european security. particularly. ready if some of the dire forecasts are that's 3 to 4 to 5 years from now, russia can regroup. it's military, which has learned a lot of lessons fighting in ukraine and might be tempted to test nato. so this is really what, what worries people that ukraine is and has some sense fighting for the, for the european border line of security. and it's, it is a feeling among europe that they really do need to step up to help ukraine. if the americans decide to walk away, right, and that's what i paid, and that's what helps you create, isn't this, this fear that europe has about the russians rushes intentions especially and, you know, pursuing its claims perhaps enjoys remote de veterans and threatening other former soviet countries such as the voltage states, indeed, and that's something that still hasn't fully socket and we're waiting for a moment when the euro will finally wake up. but then we run up against the problem . b

and there are other parts of this proposal that ukraine would not accept, for example, a hold on ukraine's future membership in nato. of the quick ability of russia to re in said you praying post ceasefire. this is not a proposal that is going to provide ukraine with a sustainable and just peace. trump did say that if you crane does not accept that if they don't accept the piece, then they can continue to fight for 3 years. he said, i think that's an abstract number that he was using there. but. and then he said that the consequence would be that ukraine would lose all of its territory to russia. and isn't that true though with us stop supporting ukraine? that is the scenario that they would be facing? or i think this is one of the keeps greatest concerns. what we've heard from vice president dance, what we've heard from secretary and state rubio, is that the united states is willing to walk away from ceasefire negotiations. if you crane and russia do not agree to the negotiation piece proposal put on the table. this would, in all intensive purposes speak to the detriment of ukraine. this

up the real ukraine where you're not project ukraine's in this a frustrating process on. just one last question for you. chevy, members of the break wave of the gold touch of ukraine, has seized the touch of the archangel michael, which belongs to the canonical you create new orthodox church in the village, both stuff, chinese and west, the ukraine. just 2 days later, police stop the charges priest would attain to report to the military recruitment center. what is your reaction to all of this, o, r p of a? well, that, as i've said before, it's just the latest example of the lensky regime, systematically targeting the craning orthodox church. they're trying to wipe it out completely. and it's nothing short of genocide against the grain in people's control. some of these church takeovers are happening all over ukraine. the pressure in crackdowns effect, everyone's associated with the craning orthodox church, freeze monks, and even just regular church goers who consider themselves orthodontics increase. anyone who attends these churches couldn't face such harassment. so this

the situation for ukraine is daya. he can have peace or he can fight for another 3 years before losing the whole country. so we can cross now to our to correspond at you guys down. i think our peers, the competing view is from american and europe are on a cheating piece. a new crane have collided in a very public way. break it down for us as well. totally under donald trump here is absolutely ripped into zelinski into something that could have been even on the hood of even a few years ago. because basically he did so over zalinski saying out loud that ukraine is not going to recognize crime me as part of russia now, the american president, he has made it clear that nobody wants key of to take that step. but at least that is not part of the peace negotiations right now. i mean cube stance on probably me, it doesn't matter for the united states. all that they have been saying is that at least there have been some media reports that they will ready to recognize. washington was ready to recognize cry me again as part of ru

it's set more air defense massage to ukraine. this or are they going to be more hawkish in the coming tense? the notes is certainly more hawkish and rhetoric and ukraine, so hoping that this is pulled up by substance, measured by the delivery of the towers miss, very of from an example. but certainly, generally, we continue to step up and join the position of the willing and what shape is it unclear? jim's that culture is about talking about deploying forces on your printing soil or the germans. very important, without them without the industrial light economic and the military might support for ukraine is very difficult to imagine. and but one more points here. your clients are certainly not losing this war, but they didn't get let capabilities as in patriot into step this way. and since that was a key, if last year, when russian decides pound it electricity, power stations, because of ukraine, simply locked into a sceptre. and these are means that the are things that simply not producing signboard to about that. and not that th

now, europe has been ukraine's most loyal audience. like you have, for instance, germany's john so let in waiting. who has confirmed he's open to the idea of supplying germany's long range taurus may solve to ukraine. if of course, the european union uh, green light is such a decision of berlin by the way, which is right now, the current administration that is very much hostile towards this idea because it is for the escalation that doesn't one things to escalate even further between russia and ukraine, especially when the peace process is ongoing. at the same time, you find the european nations, they find themselves less and less likely to unconditionally side with ukraine. because they realize that ukraine isn't just withholding truth from its domestic audience, but from them to the also his statements by the landscape, like the ones he just made in an interview to america's cbs, in which he openly admitted that he doesn't really is not really looking towards the and looking for the piece talks between to happen between him and russi

k that fail to read the room was ukraine. ukraine clearly demonstrated that it is not an obstacle to piece. today we will talk about ways to achieve a full and unconditional ceasefire as a 1st step towards a full settlement process and achieving a just and sustainable piece. at the same time, it's unclear the what is the purpose of ukrainian delegation being the represented still in full force. what exactly they're trying to achieve the meeting on an expert level and really authorized to make any major political decisions at the same time. again, the purpose of that particular ukrainian delegation was unclear from the very beginning because zalinski had reveals that the, the, what they have been authorized to do is only to discuss a 30 day ceasefire on north what the united states wanted to discuss. and that is apparently a draft over the american proposal piece proposal. and that was basically marketed as the final offer on the table on behalf of washington. now according to some media leaks, which haven't been really verified, but plenty of, uh, plenty of a west in the western medi

project, a project designed to create a ukraine that is not russia. ukraine has anti russia and ukraine as a private military company, a p. m. c. that's what we're talking about here. so as i said, he devices respond instabilities into 2 vectors. the 1st vector is continuing to fulfill these commitments, while the 2nd vector is self preservation. because only if things get worse. only through further escalation of the conflict and ukraine's capitulation, can he maintain his vector as a leader, the last leader of the military ukraine project? only then can he either remain in ukraine on part of its territory or calmly relocate to say london, and had a government in exile or for ukraine, a separate ukraine project, and even have another twice as an active branches. but this would depend on what political situation emerges in ukraine and how strong the political forces the government will be in ukraine at the time. therefore, to summarize this issue, i'd say that so then skis, current goal is towards the end the situation ukraine to escalate it because a relatively peaceful transfer of pow

ukraine. key of appears intent on keeping the conflict going is the sure saw for 2 reasons or ensuring the billions of foreign funds keep rolling and not topics breaks. next in part one, our exclusive interview with you training and p. r. jim demick, the group who left the country after speaking hi to a but so landscape policies. the arts i'm getting as of is, but mr matrix. thank you so much for agreeing to this interview. let's get to my 1st question. by the way. i'd like to address the us involvement in resolving the ukraine conflict. donald trump has essentially presented zelinski with an ultimatum . either move towards piece o risk losing the entire country if hostilities continue. how likely g things that landscape is the heat this morning? or should i have to let me put it this way? i believe donald trump represents an opportunity, a political instrument and he's not the absolute guarantor piece for ukraine, but he could serve as a means to achieve it. this was part of his campaign plat

and ukraine began immediately after world war 2. in may 1945 bunder on soldiers of the ukrainian ss divisions, flint to the west to the us and british occupied zones. the cold war began and in the confrontation with the soviets, it was a getting decided to play the ukrainian cod for about 10 years after the end of the war. united states rounded up by thousands of you for any dissidence, good weather ukraine and got them to come to canada, creating a, a, a major foreign policy force inside of canada on behalf of the frame. and uh, it turned out. busy later on that of these thousands that were sent to canada and also a lot of them had papers filled out uh from the same uh, postal address in germany when it was tracked down. well uh it was the us military base in germany. that was funneling these people into categor, former reagan administration, official, michael spring, and so documents proving the ca knows that on the same table as former associates from trial, but also use them for combat operations against the soviet union. the un

united states, russia, ukraine, and your pin. otherwise, we'll discuss all this shortly with i guess. but 1st this report from felix now water, green mountain. i. boucher ukrainian president willow demanded zalinski described wednesday as a day with emotions around high of a ministerial level conference on the wall with russia. i'd be new to take place in london, but you are a secretary of state local rubio and special invoice the woodcock port out of the 11th hour, forcing the meeting to be downgraded. it once again highlighted the divisions between europe and the us. and the other approach to resolving the whole vice president j. d bun says the us withdrawal from the negotiations, it gets, proposal is not accepted. we have engage in an extraordinary amount of diplomacy, of on the ground work. we've really tried to understand things from the perspective of both ukrainians and the russians. what do you finance care the most about? what are the russians care the most about? and i think that we put together a very fair proposal. we

and ukraine yourself now more important than ever. and being part of this, friends and partners throughout history and will continue so megan, after you. >> always a pleasure to be part of anything to do. thank you for having this conversation today talking about these things. on this conversation so my background, i like to do many things. unable to file i wear two hats. i am the director for americans think the security which is a center independent think center of the foundation that's been doing manage hearing aid since march of 2022. a veteran myself and policies here and what's happening in ukraine. i've been well over 20 times all over ukraine talking and meeting with people in the humanitarian assistance some looking forward to the conversation. >> good afternoon. thank you to the team, a fantastic space. i'm also a former army -- i served in the white house is an hello and we are advocates. nobody was talking about the people. we talk about it constantly. every conversation possible and meeting with veteran leaders. next, the

but also in general about the prospect's of ukraine, actually winning when this so slim is ukraine's idea to essentially by itself some time with states of the weapons like this. i mean, i think we have to have quick, quickly just kind of remind ourselves that in what is winning, right. i mean the one winning is obviously going back to the 1991 board is taking back crimea. that is not on the call. it's any time soon, but winning right now seems like, you know, holding the front lines for a long got seeing rushing losses really go up and they have been very significant. and, you know, and last year we thought the russians were immune. you're going to take place like across can they still haven't done that months down the line so there's a significant cost to what roster is doing. and i think the ukranian vision of winning right now looks a lot more like holding up till a better deal is possible to lever bins, getting the right together and provide serious security guarantees to a kind of serious what's a commitment to provide weapons in the future. if it doesn't mean that to membershi

and will attack any european troops in ukraine. i didn't see that as being sufficiently thought of option your capitals to. okay. marina, the a, the end of march c spa talks that took place in saudi arabia in re add. that was to look at the end of the, of a deal for a maritime see spot in the black sea. also a deal to avoid the tax on energy infrastructure. it's pretty unclear to me whether that cease fall on those particular areas was actually agreed um, what's your view on, on, on what has happened since those c spot talks took place in riyadh? well, it seems like everything is hanging in the air and now and bows put in as a lens gear or waiting for the united states next move. so from my understanding, the talks were not specifically about ukraine. the talks were a way to start repairing the relationship between russia and the united states. on that basis have to be formed to a certain extent before both sides. quote, effectively discuss the cranial scenario. what came off true is that it is a proposal to do a complete sease fir

those formed in west and ukraine was sent to poland. and so back yet to find the partisans and the locals who supported them, the existing gods. agreeable portfolio that georgia to oppose the federal you the pose dump that hill, devising the massacre the media to be and now lives in. we're also doing the punitive operations, the vendor risk counts seen of her relatives. national gina is this, so i will call this person who remodeled around options and crowns stating last year. also, the thing, julie's notes, you guys cuz i mean shuttles and, but that's not a coffee just because of the show was doing the volume, domestic, ukrainian, national. this was 60000 polls and those who had mixed ukrainian and polish blood to death, to attack j extra smooth grain, say it on the new shines that we provide you. these don't move. no, you should be already though you have never gone. yeah. will that should be on the go going you is that joe is listed on your each of those are dividing, going apple position and then ok and see should equal outcomes uti

the it says ukraine says attack. so on going, despite its russia announcing a 30 yeah, unilateral seeds fire over the east stuff on the day. the, i'm sammy say, then this is i'll just say are live from dell hall. so coming up, displace palestinians come under is riley firing garza at least $54.00 people have been killed.

but we're also sending a message to ukraine. and we are saying to ukraine, we stand with you in the fight, and we will stand with you in the peace. and us says, leaders here don't appear hopeful that america's peace efforts will bear fruit any time soon. gives an address of ongoing aggression against due grain. we must coax conceit, peace in ukraine, it appears to be out of reach of the immediate future. we will ensure that ukraine continues to benefit from all joint military support. russia needs to understand there's ukraine is able to go on fighting and we will support it. was us has nothing, any new aid for ukraine since trump took office in january. and keep still relies heavily on weapons shipments promised by the previous bite and administration. for now, europe and leaders only hope a stronger ukraine. bring russia to the negotiating table, free of car, which is 0 inside storage. the well, let's discuss all of this further with all pen lucas who are joining us today. and in odessa and ukraine, we have how much celeste, s

her ambitious, $44000000000.00 ukraine. a ton fell far short of finding consensus and a meeting in march. now she's proposing a 5 and a half $1000000000.00 fund to buy. i mean, mission, ukraine. urgency needs a large caliber amunition, a 2000000 rounds. we be our contribution in this regard. we know that it is available on the market. we just have to get our act together. the u. k and friends have led the push for a post for peacekeeping forces to monitor the implementation of any cease fire and ukraine. defense ministers from 30 countries meant to discuss the plant in brussels on thursday. the us was not among them, as europe is standing firm on its position, the rush hour only respond to pressure, not diplomacy. but it will need to rally more support for once to bolster ukraine's position at the negotiating table with at the backing of the united states. freddie a car causes era for inside story. the. well, let's discuss oldest for the with a panel of guess today. and we joined from brussels by pizza clip, but he's the ed

what is not possible for ukraine to do? he wants to, he is something that the key is prepared to give. so what is keep strategy if they one thing that the trump of ministration is going to check out sooner rather later? and it is now question of damage invitation to make sure that kind of that divorce is it? what happens on comparatively back to terms that, for instance, trump doesn't stop us companies selling spare parts to ukraine or allowing your pin step also on american made equipment to ukraine. that may be, you know, there's, there's no expectation that they're going to be new packages us aid. but the on commercial terms, it'll be possible that maybe some of the intelligence eric might continue. i think there is a sense that you're trump's mediation is not doing. we say that, do you believe that the europeans will show this as a self confidence and say, but our sanctions will remain in place. we will remember that everything the europeans have done in the last 3 years since the full scale invasion of ukraine that has

difficult it is to be a mediator while supporting ukraine. and if we are to believe the new york times, this has been an american war from the very start, the process of seeing america's war in ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, guarantee kosky in mount jackson. she is a retired us air force, lieutenant colonel having serv both n s a and the office of the secretary of defense and tash country and michael rossi . he is electra political science at rutgers university and in bangkok, blue cross. and matthew eric, he is a senior fellow at the american university of moscow and director of the rising tide foundation in canada. right across our girls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate here and let me go to you 1st and mount jackson. let's take a quick review of this little jewel, the new york times published about the length of the war and report and least that's how i felt. and it was titled the secret history of the war and ukraine. well, for those watching this program and those are on the program, it wasn'

he's also the colored manor of a desa, ukraine's largest port. normally the apartment's a big, you know, to detail a medium on 3 bedrooms, engender normally $200.00 normally. and the it was big services and great jewels because we are on the hill and this is particular zone referral is united to fund all of this living in this area is, is i heard this about, i can say your exactly this is a, don't say a compiler body italian special services on meaning on his criminal game, the same getting id to kind of as much as one of the meanings, closest associates, he's known in the underworld by his nickname. you know, the weather vane. he's a full, i'm a henchman of another dealer. alexander and guess nickname sonya b file psychiatry really former president of georgia and governor of, of this spoke about them in an interview saying they were the main players in the a desa um ms. massey a, someone that believes it on some trump let me them them do it that each did a group of dealing with this group that the street that was 10 minutes and the ready to book

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only ukraine can decide on these. the point is easy, but the lensky for domestic political reasons cannot actually propose a compromise piece. it has to be essentially forced on him from outside. so i'm afraid the or pins have nothing serious. lots of the, the key role of the, your hands will be in reconstructing ukraine off to the pool and helping ukraine if it's possible to join the or in union. that will take a huge amount of your money. but it's because absolutely critical to ukraine's future. no, i mean there is to cause quotes in the store in europe of sending a european reassurance folks to ukraine. but the russians have categorically rejected that because they see it as nature. membership by another name uh from post said that she will not, uh, also what's called us back stone. so that falls, the structure falls, and in those circumstances, i mean, if the europeans sent in such a force without the russian agreement, they would be committing themselves to war with russia. and actually road leading european coun

ukraine. peace deal is frustrating. donald trump, who once promised to end the war in just 24 hours. now trump says the us might drop it's mediation efforts, but stopped short of naming other measures to pressure the sides. if for some reason, one of the 2 parties makes it very difficult, we're just going to say here, full issue of fools. you horrible people and we're going to just take a pass, but hopefully we won't have to do that. russia and ukraine took part in separate to us that peace talks and saudi arabia in the past 2 months, resulting and unlimited seats by, with a pause in a tax, etc, and against energy facilities. moscow and key of have accused each other of violating the seatbar many times. so close, i went to the seats for the is a big question to me personally because as i said, we had an attempt on the limited sees for on energy infrastructure which was not observed by the premium side. so in due circumstances, so to speak about the ceasefire is simply, is simply a listing of t

and that's one reason why trump's go to man for ukraine. steve with call was in russia today for a face to face with fulton, the russian president tried to play down to get together the motto. there's nothing here to see, but it won't stay that way for long if russia drags its feet further, donald trump could be seen red bird golf in berlin. this is the day the piece and ukraine appears to be out of reach of the immediate future. i think we're making progress. the meticulous work continues. we are exchanging views. said he wants to pace pretty continues to drag his feet. we will firmly pursue our national interest. pressure is run through and up its production. uh, its meaning, it's people pressure on the rush, a must increase every day. the hope that we're going to be able to make a deal relatively soon with russia and ukraine. also coming up the spiraling trade war between china and the us president season things as his country is not afraid. so what's the next move? well, let's see what happens with china. would love to be able to work a

the situation for ukraine is daya. he can have peace or he can fight for another 3 years before losing the whole country. dog from he is absolutely ripped into zalinski into something that could have been even on the hood of even a few years ago. because basically he did so over zalinski saying out loud that ukraine is not going to recognize crime yet as part of russia. now, the american president, he has made it clear that nobody wants key of to take that step, but at least that is not part of the peace negotiations right now. i mean, cube stance on crime. it doesn't matter for the united states. all that they have been saying is that at least there have been some media reports that they will read the to recognize washington was ready to recognize cry me again as part of russian . so donald trump has lashed out at zalinski for essentially hampering and hurting badly the peace process that is ongoing. and um, i mean this is, uh, this was very visible throughout today because the american delegation headlined by marco r

and france have been leading efforts for a european reassurance, forcing ukraine that would help ukraine maintain the peace following a ceasefire. should one occur, and also help rebuild ukraine's defenses and inhibit russia from re invading. the united states has not shown any commitment to that sort of idea, not only in a lot of troops, but also in enablers. and so the only assurance is we have right now. and i wouldn't even call them insurances or what we're hearing from the europeans. but again, in either the peace proposal scenario or in the united states walking away from negotiations, this is not an administration that is committed to security guarantees in the form of us capabilities or us troops and the europeans who are expected to offer those guarantees are actually pushing back against trumps peace proposal. what are your opinions making any plans for the possibility that the us could walk away from negotiations here? i would very much expect that europeans are planning for the worst case scenario in which the united states docs way. i think we've seen that in the talks of a

bank ukraine, white on the naples to the bank, bolsheviks proclaimed the creation of sylvia ukraine and the so called independent done it scribble a roman republic. like today, nationalist receive financial support, weapons and troops from po homebuyer. we're just a little confused. those paper filled out the diabetes show you a little phone, little bit, the perceived stuff on the other boys have to be spent as a new lesson photos image one that people stimulus of them are just fees that are paid off total. and for the aid with 2 regions of west and ukraine, was sold to gain control volume and getting the c a which had recently belonged to austria, hungary, security for the inquiry. and when you come to our you are what you said. as of started the switching deal of a solid and part of the about the video wrist and the oppose couldn't hold key the capital of the self proclaimed state. right by que crane soon, also became so here's the liberated from the pet lurise. can you gain control over the native russian territories themselves and based ideas? the calliah of s o in and motor you who

35 people in ukraine.c correspondent has more. james: a rare sight -- american and european diplomats around the table in paris and they are all smiles. >> this looks like president trump's -- james: the u.s. envoy even comparing the palace to the president's florida resort. their aim is to find a way to end the war in ukraine. in recent months the u.s. has held successive meetings in the middle east with the russians and the ukrainians but separately and on their own, trying but failing to negotiate a quick cease fire. steve witkoff was expected to report back on his latest discussions with president putin in st. petersburg last week. the russians trying to sound positive. >> the talks were extremely productive. there are a lot of people, structures, countries trying to derail our dialogue with the united states. james: president macron and his allies say it is president putin who is resisting a cease-fire and are expected to urge the americans to put more pressure on russia. >> i think europeans and ukra

the situation for ukraine is dire. he can have peace, or he can fight for another 3 years before losing the whole country. enrolling pressure to make key of come to terms with the reality, to try and save what's left. we've done our best, we put a lot of time and energy at the highest levels of our government. and at some point we determine that the, the were just too far apart and not enough movement is happening. we may need to move on to other priorities because there are a lot of important things happening in the world. this is not our work, but it's now time i think, to take, if not the final step, one of the final steps, which is at a level the party saying we're going to stop the killing. we're going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today. and we're going to actually put in place to kind of long term diplomatic settlement that hopefully will lead to long term fees. because practice shows that every time you can get stubborn over piece proposals, it's losing more, more lives,

and 3 board members coming from the ukraine. so a long contentious process has resulted in this agreement a new moment for ukraine. it, us relations relations that have certainly seen their fair share of challenges. yeah. um, we're seeing what the us once, but i mean, ukraine obviously has this priority for, for, for peace. so what are the security guarantees that the ukrainians can bank on? so yes, so we know that the lens did push very hard for a security guarantees. he needed something to hold onto. that would keep russia from invading it again or to keep a rush hour respecting any ceasefire agreement that would come to place. now this tax does not really have any explicit mention of a security guarantee, but there is some encouraging language in there for the ukrainians. included among the objectives, if i may, quote, a broader strategic alignment between peoples and governments with a tangible demonstration of us support for ukraine, security and integration into global economic frameworks. now, like i said, that's encourag

they help the terrorists in organizing the rear ukraine is an example for us. ukraine is a terrorist state. we are all ready to double our efforts in the fight against terrorism and its sponsors like ukraine. ukraine is a terror sponsor, and it must be stopped. russian foreign minister, a certain day lab, rob's wrapped up talks with the foreign ministers of countries from the ssl alliance. that's of course molly burkina faso and the share and a lot was talked about regarding the current state of cooperation between russia and these countries along with future plans going forward. and of course, one of the major spears of cooperation has to do with diplomacy. survey lab, real upset that russia has been doing a lot to support initiatives by the so help countries that are beneficial to their foreign policy interest in international organizations. specifically, in the united nations where russia is, of course, a permanent member and moscow is doing a lot as well to block initiatives from western countries in the united nations that are aimed at hurting the foreign policy interests of thi